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		<title>Paulb: Added comment.</title>
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				<updated>2008-10-01T22:58:54Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Added comment.&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&#039;2&#039; style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:--[[User:Peter gummer|Peter gummer]] 00:34, 19 March 2008 (PDT) Paul mentions the word &amp;quot;optimize&amp;quot; twice in the article: it&amp;#039;s only a potential bonus of his proposal, not the principal motivation. And his proposal isn&amp;#039;t for &amp;quot;static methods&amp;quot; (although it does provide a mechanism for them: a frozen objectless routine would be equivalent to a &amp;quot;static method&amp;quot;, I suppose). Your &amp;quot;implicit class&amp;quot; idea is interesting, but it&amp;#039;s not clear to me how it addresses the concerns that Paul raised.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:--[[User:Peter gummer|Peter gummer]] 00:34, 19 March 2008 (PDT) Paul mentions the word &amp;quot;optimize&amp;quot; twice in the article: it&amp;#039;s only a potential bonus of his proposal, not the principal motivation. And his proposal isn&amp;#039;t for &amp;quot;static methods&amp;quot; (although it does provide a mechanism for them: a frozen objectless routine would be equivalent to a &amp;quot;static method&amp;quot;, I suppose). Your &amp;quot;implicit class&amp;quot; idea is interesting, but it&amp;#039;s not clear to me how it addresses the concerns that Paul raised.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:-----[[User:Paulb|paulb]] 15:58, 1 October 2008 (PDT)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Actually any call made using the Eiffel static calling convention would be performed statically instead of dynamic dispatch. In that case objectless calls need not be marked &amp;lt;e&amp;gt;frozen&amp;lt;/e&amp;gt; in order to benefit from performance gains. And, although performance is not the generalized issue here, I would like objectless calls to be implemented for performance reasons also. There is a dramatic increase in performance when using static calls as apposed to dynamic dispatch.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Paulb</name></author>	</entry>

