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		<title>Alexander Kogtenkov: Cosmetics.</title>
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		<updated>2016-01-22T16:21:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cosmetics.&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 16:21, 22 January 2016&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Void-safe copy==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Void-safe copy==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[User:Alexander Kogtenkov|Alexander Kogtenkov]] ([[User talk:Alexander Kogtenkov|talk]]) 08:&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;20&lt;/del&gt;, 22 January 2016 (PST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt;[[User:Alexander Kogtenkov|Alexander Kogtenkov]] ([[User talk:Alexander Kogtenkov|talk]]) 08:&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;21&lt;/ins&gt;, 22 January 2016 (PST)&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Possible approaches:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Possible approaches:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Alexander Kogtenkov</name></author>
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		<title>Alexander Kogtenkov at 16:20, 22 January 2016</title>
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		<updated>2016-01-22T16:20:24Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 16:20, 22 January 2016&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[User:Alexander Kogtenkov|Alexander Kogtenkov]] ([[User talk:Alexander Kogtenkov|talk]]) 08:19, 22 January 2016 (PST)&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Void-safe copy==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Void-safe copy==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[User:Alexander Kogtenkov|Alexander Kogtenkov]] ([[User talk:Alexander Kogtenkov|talk]]) 08:20, 22 January 2016 (PST)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Possible approaches:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Possible approaches:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Alexander Kogtenkov</name></author>
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	<entry>
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		<title>Alexander Kogtenkov: Started a discussion on void safe copy.</title>
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		<updated>2016-01-22T16:19:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Started a discussion on void safe copy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[User:Alexander Kogtenkov|Alexander Kogtenkov]] ([[User talk:Alexander Kogtenkov|talk]]) 08:19, 22 January 2016 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
==Void-safe copy==&lt;br /&gt;
Possible approaches:&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot; border=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;border-collapse:collapse; border-color: LightGrey;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;vertical-align: top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! scope=&amp;quot;col&amp;quot;| Solution&lt;br /&gt;
! scope=&amp;quot;col&amp;quot;| Rules for expanded classes&lt;br /&gt;
! scope=&amp;quot;col&amp;quot;| Pros&lt;br /&gt;
! scope=&amp;quot;col&amp;quot;| Cons&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;vertical-align: top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| Remove &amp;lt;e&amp;gt;clone&amp;lt;/e&amp;gt; altogether and make &amp;lt;e&amp;gt;copy&amp;lt;/e&amp;gt; a creation procedure where needed.&lt;br /&gt;
| &amp;lt;e&amp;gt;copy&amp;lt;/e&amp;gt; is a mandatory creation procedure for expanded classes. Then reattachment to an expanded entity means creation of an expanded object with regular creation rules.&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No magic.&lt;br /&gt;
* No special run-time support.&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Partial code duplication for every class (&amp;lt;e&amp;gt;Precursor&amp;lt;/e&amp;gt; can be used to reduce duplication).&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;vertical-align: top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| Remove &amp;lt;e&amp;gt;copy&amp;lt;/e&amp;gt; altogether. Add a class &amp;lt;e&amp;gt;CLONEABLE&amp;lt;/e&amp;gt; with a deferred feature &amp;lt;e&amp;gt;twin&amp;lt;/e&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
| Expanded classes should inherit &amp;lt;e&amp;gt;CLONEABLE&amp;lt;/e&amp;gt; (and define &amp;lt;e&amp;gt;twin&amp;lt;/e&amp;gt;).&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No magic.&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Code duplication for every class.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
Special rules for expanded classes can be removed altogether. Instead additional requirements will be added:&lt;br /&gt;
* reattachment with a source of an expanded type is valid only if ...&lt;br /&gt;
* actual generic of an expanded class is valid only if ...&lt;br /&gt;
* changing a type in a declaration from reference to expanded is valid only if ...&lt;br /&gt;
where ... is as specified in the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Rules for expanded classes&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; above. This would allow to have expanded classes that cannot be copied and this may be useful in some scenarios.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Alexander Kogtenkov</name></author>
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