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		<title>Juliant at 22:32, 3 July 2007</title>
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				&lt;td colspan='2' style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;--[[User:Peter gummer|Peter gummer]] 10:54, 3 July 2007 (CEST) It is annoying that, in order to solve the catcall problem, we have to forbid polymorphic assignments like &amp;lt;e&amp;gt;list_of_any := list_of_string&amp;lt;/e&amp;gt;. Yes, we don't want integers poked into &amp;lt;e&amp;gt;list_of_any&amp;lt;/e&amp;gt; when it's attached to a list of strings; but usually when we perform such assignments it's so that we can use the list in a read-only fashion. I would prefer to allow such assignments, if and only if the entity on the left is declared '''read-only'''. ''Uh oh'', now I've gone and raised the old question, &amp;quot;C++ has ''const'' so why doesn't Eiffel?&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;--[[User:Peter gummer|Peter gummer]] 10:54, 3 July 2007 (CEST) It is annoying that, in order to solve the catcall problem, we have to forbid polymorphic assignments like &amp;lt;e&amp;gt;list_of_any := list_of_string&amp;lt;/e&amp;gt;. Yes, we don't want integers poked into &amp;lt;e&amp;gt;list_of_any&amp;lt;/e&amp;gt; when it's attached to a list of strings; but usually when we perform such assignments it's so that we can use the list in a read-only fashion. I would prefer to allow such assignments, if and only if the entity on the left is declared '''read-only'''. ''Uh oh'', now I've gone and raised the old question, &amp;quot;C++ has ''const'' so why doesn't Eiffel?&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;'''--[[User:Juliant|Juliant]] 00:32, 4 July 2007 (CEST)''':&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;The assignment has to be disallowed with ''default semantics''. A good solution will allow exactly what you say, an easy way to declare a read-only list. For example the [[usage-site variance]] would allow to declare a list as &amp;lt;e&amp;gt;LIST [+ANY]&amp;lt;/e&amp;gt; to mark it read-only.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;The last ECMA meeting proposed a new solution but we didn't get the validity rules yet, so we don't have a wiki-page for this at the moment. We will add this when we get them and then we can see how it works there.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Peter gummer at 08:54, 3 July 2007</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;--[[User:Peter gummer|Peter gummer]] 10:54, 3 July 2007 (CEST) It is annoying that, in order to solve the catcall problem, we have to forbid polymorphic assignments like &amp;lt;e&amp;gt;list_of_any := list_of_string&amp;lt;/e&amp;gt;. Yes, we don't want integers poked into &amp;lt;e&amp;gt;list_of_any&amp;lt;/e&amp;gt; when it's attached to a list of strings; but usually when we perform such assignments it's so that we can use the list in a read-only fashion. I would prefer to allow such assignments, if and only if the entity on the left is declared '''read-only'''. ''Uh oh'', now I've gone and raised the old question, &amp;quot;C++ has ''const'' so why doesn't Eiffel?&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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